Carolina Ale House Plans Move Forward

OldeSchool
10/21 05:53 PM

GloSo? WTF?

ashley
10/21 06:03 PM

are they tearing down the existing building or just modifying the one that’s there?  and is the project that includes the hotel that got denied taking out sidewalk space for a pull through valet lane for patrons checking in?

hackles10
10/22 10:17 AM

Seems like the new plan has them tearing down the existing structure. Not 100% about the second part of your question, but the hampton inn is still going forward and it’s a block away from this project.

Jeff
10/22 04:58 PM

They and the Hampton Inn (a block away) are tearing down the existing small, one-story buildings to build on the site.  Glenwood is going to look pretty different in a year’s time…

RaleighRob
10/22 05:44 PM

This is fine I just hope they don’t do like the Hampton Inn people are and block the sidewalk during the construction.  It’s difficult enough to get around there as it is…particularly on Fri and Sat nights.
Otherwise, good for them.  Though I imagine the Tylers in Seaboard will be open by then and people will be pretty tied to that as their first choice for a casual sports bar.

smitty
10/23 04:47 PM

Is there some sort of rule in Raleigh about rooftop bars and the use of glass and bottles?

Lisa Jeffries
10/23 06:09 PM

“Is there some sort of rule in Raleigh about rooftop bars and the use of glass and bottles?”

Went to Rudino’s Rooftop in North Raleigh a few weekends ago and they allow no glassware (even went as far as to serve hot food on styrofoam plates - ugh) and no children under 18 at any hours. Met a couple of friends there a few Sundays ago for lunch and football - two of our friends had baby with them and they were asked to move to the other ground-floor part of the restaurant… citing insurance policy as the reason.

So maybe it’s not a local rule, but insurance underwriters must have made an impression on local establishments.

jm18668
10/23 08:03 PM

Lisa,
The Rudino’s Rooftop had the top an18+ bar quite a few years ago, maybe 04-05. Pretty sure it has nothing to do with insurance, but that’s an easy scapegoat so people don’t want to complain to a manager. Other than the Hive downtown I can’t think of any other rooftop Raleigh Bars. The Hives serves lunch there to all ages using china and serving beer in bottles.

John
10/23 09:27 PM

Hi JM18668,
Solas is another rooftop bar and it’s a pretty large space.

rifraz
10/24 12:18 PM

There’s a new rooftop bar Lynnwood Grill in the same shopping center as Raleigh Grande.  No glassware up there either.

reesian
10/24 12:37 PM

who’s the architect for this project?

smitty
10/24 01:16 PM

Next question: What is the probability of serious injury from a pint glass accidentally dropped from a third floor balcony onto a very busy sidewalk?

John
10/24 02:17 PM

Smitty,
You forgot to add the probability of a pint glass accidentally (or otherwise) dropped by a drunk person?  For that matter, what’s the probability that a drunk person himself/herself fall from a third floor balcony?

John
10/24 02:19 PM

reesian,
What architect?   I don’t see any architecture.  At least Solas and Helios aren’t same ole same ole…

joe
10/24 04:05 PM

i’m guessing they are anticipating more ‘adults’ attending this restaurant rather than the traditional GS crowd of 20-year olds.

New York and DC have rooftops everywhere plus Top of the Hill in CH as done pretty well without dumbasses dropping glasses on top of people.

Diane
10/24 05:10 PM

The architect is Frank Smith from Wilmington.  The interior designer is Diane Makgill from Raleigh.

kg
10/25 11:27 AM

maybe they should build it underground… you know, just to be safe.

matt
10/25 01:00 PM

They can stand in the basement and try to throw their bottles up to the roof.

Alex
10/25 03:55 PM

It’s not Hi-5 anymore, it’s called Draft.  It’s still owned by Rocky Top but the concept is much different.  They have 40 local and regional craft brews.  Don’t mean to be an ass, but isn’t the purpose of this forum to convey NEW and UPDATED information?

Frank
10/25 10:17 PM

Oh, yes! The area needs another resturant and no more parking!

John
10/26 12:24 AM

Glenwood South is not a strip mall. Everything shouldn’t be built around immediately convenient parking.

WILLNCSU
10/26 09:35 AM

I actually think the building looks pretty cool, very NCSUesque.

richardfoc
10/26 11:23 AM

No parking? I don’t go to Glenwood South very often but isn’t there a big parking deck right next to the proposed site…as shown in the picture! Does that deck tend to fill up on Friday and Saturday nights? And isn’t there another deck a few blocks up behind the building that houses Tobacoo Road? And another one near Natty Greene’s? How much parking do you need? You got a bunch of cars or something?

LB
10/26 05:27 PM

I actually think it looks like a pretty cool building, too.  Although I still wish they could use the existing building.

Marky Mark
10/27 05:52 PM

“very NCSUesque.” - @ Will - good point. In that one picture it looks like one large red brick.

OldeSchool
10/27 07:37 PM

I think Alex meant “no more parking right in front of where he/she wants to go.” There’s all kinds of parking in the area if you can manage to walk half a block.

John
10/29 03:50 PM

In the big picture of Glenwood South with future development that fills the area between Glenwood and Capital, I can imagine a parking structure accessed from that feeder road from Capital to W. Johnson St.  We have to be realistic about the need for more parking, even with any future light rail service to the area.  Anyway, parking on the east end of the ‘hood could provide easy access for drivers while allow the core of the neighborhood to have priority for pedestrians.

DPK
10/31 01:32 PM

Are we really complaining about parking in downtown Raleigh?  There’s a ton of parking available.  Learn how to walk.

joe
11/01 11:30 AM

DPK,

you are absolutely correct.  Why on earth are you talking about parking?  There are three large parking decks within 100 feet of GS, plus multiple parking lots.

Yes, this isn’t Wal-Mart.  You may actually have to pay $2 whole dollars to park and yes, you’ll have to figure out how to navigate the ‘maze’ known as a parking deck….............but it can be done….

joe
11/01 11:31 AM

DPK,

you are absolutely correct.  Why on earth are you talking about parking?  There are three large parking decks within 100 feet of GS, plus multiple parking lots.

Yes, this isn’t Wal-Mart.  You may actually have to pay $2 whole dollars to park and yes, you’ll have to figure out how to navigate the ‘maze’ known as a parking deck….............but it can be done….

Brad Double-Dizzle
11/01 03:47 PM

Perhaps all of the frightened suburbanites can stick to the strip mall version of Carolina Ale House.

Mark
11/02 05:30 PM

Good urban form and fits aesthetically into the area. Much better than the old Pine State office building it will be replacing (which is not old at all…looks 1970’s vintage)

smitty
11/03 11:13 AM

1960 actually.

I’m curious about the giant ugly signs on the roof.  Raleigh’s sign codes are rather strict and fees are significant. 

Lisa Jeffries
11/17 06:33 PM

“You may actually have to pay $2 whole dollars to park” - I would LOVE to only pay $2 to park. Last time I had to (got Downtown too late in the evening to find a decent spot otherwise), it was $7. Rip off.

Jeff
01/09 02:16 PM

Has there been some kind of hold-up?  I was walking by a week ago and nothing at all has been done.  Their website says demolition started 6 months ago and it should be opening up in a few months.