Dear Raleigh Everyman

Dear Raleigh Everyman,

Hello, hi, what’s going on? Oh, so you saw me and my friend sitting at the bar and thought you’d come over to chat – why thank you. Yes, I too am interested in North Carolina craft brews and hate the Glenwood ‘scene.’ I also enjoy your unique sense of style—that beard is truly special on you and separates you from all the other 20-somethings in here who have begun to remind me of my trip to the Amish country. I can tell this and your apparent addiction to plaid shirts and tees that would be tight on a girl are the foundation of your identity.

Uh-oh, your ex is here? Yes, I agree she does seem crazy. I know the type, won’t leave you alone, refuses to understand that by not calling her back you were in effect ending your relationship in the most adult way possible—through avoidance and lies. But she never really ‘got’ you. Not in the way that your guy friends get you. Yes, they are some solid dudes: Your not-so-borderline closeness with them is something no heterosexual relationship could ever match. Given your strong homo-social bond, you really have no need for a girlfriend. Your relationship with these guys provides you with more drama and a more reliable group of enablers than any girl ever could. And you need this constant, daytime soap opera epic cycle of drama to feel important and loved. But you don’t cause the drama—no, not you—others just seem to bring it and you are, sigh, forced to deal with it because you are just such a good friend.

You are, in fact, very much like the friends I had as a hormonal 12 year-old girl, though perhaps a bit less secure.

But back to your favorite topic—you. You have a god-given ability to really ‘know’ music. You feel music in a way no one else understands, and though you are rabidly liberal, you do discriminate against those with poor musical taste—it is your own personal brand of elitism. Music is your religion and any band who put out a record on Matador is your patron saint. Would I like to go to a show with you? Sweet Jesus, yes! Please tell me that I can meet you somewhere for drinks, PBR or your favorite new IPA, and then get the joy of not only seeing you drunk, but splitting the check.

The check splitting alone would be fine, but since you live downtown and don’t own a car, this means I will also have the pleasure of driving us to Disco Rodeo. And back. While you continue to drink and return from your trips to the bathroom looking like you’ve been making out with a powdered doughnut. But it’s ok, it’s cool, it’s the new hip drug, so it fits your carefully cultivated image while helping to fill the gaping hole left by your unsatisfying high school experiences and incomplete college education.

Oh, and you’re in a band? Really? How special, I never would have guessed! I’m sure that it’s really going to take off, and then you won’t have to work in the food service industry anymore! But even if this does happen, as you have deluded yourself into thinking it will, don’t worry—I know you won’t sell out, not you, not ever.

Katherine Milan lives in Raleigh. She has dated this man many, many times…

dan04/01 01:48 PM

so, uh… you want to go out this weekend?

CC04/01 01:53 PM

nice.

Dan04/01 02:16 PM

Gee, thanks for stopping by Mz. Premenstrual-incredibly-high-maintenance-too-good-for-BBQ-and-casual-dress-train-wreck-due-to-latent-insecurities-and-self-loathing lady, you. Can I buy you another candy cocktail that comes in a martini glass while you whine about your girlfriends/job/ex? Because I’d much rather hear about your equally abnoxious friends than ponder the wonder that was Towns Van Zandt or the subtleties of the last Big Boss cask ale with people who are comfortable enough with their weaknesses to talk about something other than trying to justify themselves.

When is your flight back to New Jersey?

TheWaveLife04/01 02:27 PM

Dan, darling, if you’re going for the witty run-on sentence, make sure you spell obnoxious correctly. It kind of takes the wind out of your sails.

Dan04/01 02:46 PM

Wow. Oh my God! Dear me!! The spell check retort. You just nailed me. I mean, gosh. Killed. Me. Dead. Holy S&@t! I cannot believe how hard you just hit me. I’m not sure I’ll ever be the same. I’m lost. Lost! And now your incessant whine session has been bolstered by your superior spell checker. No one will ever see past it. No one will see the perfect irony in the whining nitpicking complainer refusing criticism due to one misplaced letter in an entire alphabet of truth. Damn you iPhone! Curse your impossibly small keys and your hard to position cursor! Damn you to hell, Apple!

Andy S.04/01 02:49 PM

While it’s unfortunate that there are plenty of Raleigh men that could be comfortably placed into this particular category of douchebag, what’s more unfortunate is this:

“She has dated this man many, many times…”

Katherine, doing the same thing over and over and hoping for a different result is the very definition of insanity. It is not the fault of Raleigh hipster douchebags if you don’t have the sense to stop dating hipster douchebags.

sarah04/01 02:54 PM

this is all a bit ridiculous, but i guess it is a little funny to pin point a stereotype. You do see this guy in Raleigh a lot.

ladye jane04/01 02:55 PM

“misplaced letter in an entire alphabet of truth” might just be the best thing I’ve read all day

RaleighRob04/01 03:01 PM

Funny. Just a couple of years ago, I heard young women complain a lot that most young straight men in Raleigh were “Former-fratboys-who-still-act-like-fratboys”.

Now it’s “hipster douchebags”? I guess at least we’re evolving?

Dwight04/01 03:06 PM

I agree with RaleighRob:

Raleigh-hipster-douchebag > Former-fratboys-who-still-act-like-fratboys

arthurb304/01 03:13 PM

Hehee, you all are funny. If you don’t want people to talk to you stay home. Don’t go to bar and coffee shops. And then there is all that stuff about society teaching boys to approach girls, ect, ect, ect.

Suzanne04/01 03:35 PM

I laughed out loud when I read this. Thanks! I see that guy in the bars all the time. This really brightened my day! :o)

T-Plain04/01 03:40 PM

Lady, they keep selling it because you keep buying it.

kg04/01 04:19 PM

i think i’ll just sit back and watch this evolve.

M04/01 04:31 PM

This chick must be dating all the kids in the same family. First of all, what’s with the “incomplete college education”? I’m calling bull s**t. This girl doesn’t live in the Research Triangle. Next. Beards ands bands. Obviously this girl dates only white kids in a town full of shades of brown. I’m not saying that’s racist, but saying “Raleigh Everyman” is a white guy sure isn’t cosmopolitan.

So what we HAVE here is a betty who who exclusively dates white kids who didn’t finish college (which, honestly, is some hilarious snobbery in itself) and are apparently all in “bands”. And SHE’S complaining? Seriously?

If that’s Raleigh everyman, than I’m Santa Claus. Why don’t you actually experience the town you claim as home. Hell, read the damn census before you imagine up your next article. Have you even left your house in the last five years?

Note to New Raleigh Blog: This is beneath you. This is not good writing. It’s not contemporary. It’s just some girl that’s mad about a recent break up.

Devin04/01 04:49 PM

http://xkcd.com/386/

Heath04/01 05:11 PM

Nice piece. Funny as hell. Write more.

another dan04/01 05:25 PM

so you are saying only white guys can grow beards? Hmm. Interesting. What census are you reading?

smitty04/01 05:31 PM

I LOLed

Jason!04/01 05:50 PM

Dearest Kate.

When you finally get tired of those men, do come over. My clean-shaven, Budweiser-drinking, gainfully-employed, Dockers-wearing, football-watching, BMW-driving, used-to-smoke-weed in college, high-and-tight haircut self will be parked on my Rooms-to-Go couch watching sports in HD. There’s a space for you, provided you bring another beer for me from the fridge first.

Yours in Christ, Go Raiders!

Betsy04/01 05:51 PM

Pretty funny! I guess ‘being a grownup’ hasn’t come back into fashion quite as much as we had thought.

MMI04/01 06:23 PM

Gee, I thought the post was classically funny, until I started reading the collective panty-bunching that followed! Thank you, Raleigh!!

Keep this up, Katherine, and you’ll have yourself the makings of one hell of a local dating blog.

spookyjon04/01 06:24 PM

Guys with beards don’t go to Disco Rodeo.

AndyS04/01 06:27 PM

Did Technician reject this and that is why it is on here?

Now talk about black male stereotypes. Oh, yeah, probably wouldn’t touch that…

Rusty04/01 06:28 PM

Thank you Katherine. You’ve brightened my day.

T-Plain04/01 06:44 PM

She should holler at William Needham Finley IV.

Betsy04/01 07:13 PM

William Needham Finley IV already has a girlfriend. She just arrived via her Pearl White Yukon Navigator at Oberlin Animal Hospital, where she is talking on her pink, chiclet-sized phone and struggling with a house-sized shoulder bag from North Hills Lifestyle Centre while letting her black lab, ‘Tucker’, jump on other patrons.

Jake04/01 07:16 PM

The commenters on this article are at least 50% funnier than the actual article.

How sad is it that 19-22 something hipsters are white-knighting their “lifestyle choice” as if a. being a hipster is anything different than wearing baggy jeans and a fubu shirt, and b. anyone honestly gives a fuck about what they’re talking about, aside from theirself.
protip: Having a mustache as a joke isn’t a lifestyle choice.
It’s not 1997 anymore guys, metalcore is on MTV. Your converge shirt looks too new and diesel went out of fashion 30 days after you saw it at the Prayer for Cleansing reunion show. Not that you would know, because you were 11 when bands, music and friendship meant anything besides what kind of coke you were snorting off of which friends dick.

The fact that people are calling the scene “the scene” and think that wearing the standard hipster uniform makes them somehow different than the collared shirt suits at the bank may possibly be the most laughable thing about these toddler-adults.

in summation, If you can’t rent a car without your mom’s signature, stop talking about “the scene” as if you actually make a difference in anyones lives.

Imagine Raleigh04/01 07:19 PM

I’m thinking you are off the guest list for the next “male chick for the masses” rock show.

You are no longer their face book friend!!!!

SI04/01 07:23 PM

A few things…

—“Guys with beards don’t go to Disco Rodeo.”

spookyjon- You can’t be serious. Have you ever been to DR?

—“First of all, what’s with the “incomplete college education”? I’m calling bull s**t. This girl doesn’t live in the Research Triangle.”

M- No, she doesn’t, and she didn’t claim to live in the Research Triangle—she’s talking about Raleigh. There’s a difference, a HUGE difference. Good god, check out a local map and learn some geography.

Katherine, you hit the nail on the head with the driving his drunk ass around all night.

blzbub04/01 07:38 PM

Hmmm… I can understand your annoyance with the kind of person that you’re describing. However, you’ve basically sketched a caricature of someone and expressed your disdain for any person like it. Fair enough, but to even suggest that all men in Raleigh are the same (much less how you have characterized them) is pretty simple-minded. It’s articles like these that make me question my regular visits here. I’m honestly surprised that New Raleigh published this tripe.

Jake04/01 07:40 PM

most of the males in raleigh ARE like that.
nice job, college town usa

Betsy04/01 07:46 PM

Fret not, it gets better after 30.

(For most of us, anyway.)

ad04/01 08:06 PM

bizbub really? a satirical piece makes you question your visits to raleigh? you either don’t really want to come here, or you have a very low irony threshold. this article is 1) funny, and 2) pretty damn spot on. as a semi-hipster raleighite myself, i find her somewhat tongue in cheek criticisms readily applicable. if you are offended so what? grab another pbr, tighten up your pants, put on something ironically pop-y (perhaps a little You Say Party! We Say Die!) and dance your brightly colored shoes off.

paperclip04/01 08:48 PM

Man times have changed. When I was at “hipstir” age I was/still all tatted up and in a crappy punk ass band. I would drink at bars with my buds, smash cans of beer half full on their drunk ass heads, cuss their dumb ass girl friends out just to laugh when they cry (which means can head boyfriend usually starts giggling too leading to the breakup). We would then usually order a pizza then roll the delivery guy and take his shoes, now on to drinkin fortys late night and generally raise hell. Next day that/any girl I cussed out would call/show up and throw themselves at me. I knew we were stupid and others were just dumber. My god that was fun. Now I have a mortgage and a dog. Lame me. Oh that dumb ass I smashed a beer on his head (on numerous occasions mind you) just learned to breath fire and is still in the crappy band. We still get a little royalty cash though. I personally think life is pretty fun and tend not to whine. Like I said though I know I am stupid but don’t really give a damn about much how others see the world, my eyes and ears work just fine.

M04/01 08:52 PM

RT"P” is not the same as “the triangle”. It’s the meaning of the P you are missing, bonehead. Hell, do you even know where the universities are?

dt04/01 09:10 PM

love it, keep up the good work

SI04/01 09:23 PM

M- No shit Sherlock. The triangle consists of Raleigh, Durham, Chapel Hill (and yes, I do know where the Universities are, seeing as how I was raised here and I went to two of the Universities for undergrad and grad school). Therefore, if Katherine was referring to the “Research Triangle,” it would be entitled “Dear Raleigh, Durham, Chapel Hill Everyman.” Clearly, she’s making a comment on Raleigh, a city in and of itself, and not just a part of a larger whole. Thus, by pointing out the existence of the Triangle, and the Universities in it, you are clearly missing the point of the “Raleigh aspect” of her article. Each city has a personality of its own, and different stereotypes of its people (including stereotypes of the student populations at each University or college), and by lumping the three together for an article highlighting stereotypical social issues of each city and its members (such as this article is attempting to do for the group understood as “Raleigh men”), you are missing the entire point.

But I appreciate you referring to me as a “bonehead.” I got a good laugh out of that—I haven’t been called that since the ‘80s.

Just wondering, how long have you lived in Raleigh, anyhow? You another transplant?

M04/01 10:15 PM

Quote: “No, she doesn’t, and she didn’t claim to live in the Research Triangle—she’s talking about Raleigh. There’s a difference, a HUGE difference. Good god, check out a local map and learn some geography.”

It’s pretty clear what you meant.

Is Raleigh part of Research Triangle or not? Yes. Again, not the “park”, the greater triangle that includes the universities and pharm/tech hq’s. Therefore, given that Raleigh is in the Research Triangle, does Raleigh Everyman also live in the Research Triangle?

Are those gears turning yet?

Also, if either you or Katherine lived here, which I’m starting to doubt, you would know that 40% of Raleigh is a race other than white, and that 40% have bachelor degrees. I sincerely doubt 40% are in bands, and I know 40% does not drink microbrew IPA’s. If they did, they’d have better beer selections at every watering hole in town. Katherine is either not living in Raleigh, or intentionally exposes herself to a very limited “scene”. Her white college dropout amish-like band boy is nowhere near Raleigh Everyman. Its not even close.

SI04/01 10:53 PM

You know what? You’re absolutely right… I’m someone who pretends to live in Raleigh by reading a blog about Raleigh, and then I waste my time by responding back and forth with an idiot who completely ignores any point I make about uniqueness of different cities in the triangle. Way to go man, you totally figured me out.

And I’d like to go out on a limb and say you’d be hard-pressed to find a bar downtown that doesn’t have at least 1 IPA on tap (now mind you, I’m talking about RALEIGH, not Durham or Chapel Hill, as I tried to make clear in my last post, which was lost on you.)

Ebart04/01 11:34 PM

looking forward to more like this… articles and comments.

i enjoyed the conversation, everyone.

dude04/02 02:14 AM

One thing I know. When a women is complaining about men it’s because she has nothing else better to do. Men have beards sometimes, like beer, like gals like you (that complain), will tolerate some complaining, might….might marry you, yet you pigeonhole every Raleigh male. Go somewhere else for hipstir sake. If you must feel like you must complain about something, complain about the fact that certain areas attract certain people. It comes back to just turn it off, don’t go there, find somewhere else. Shut up and feed your cats. O r suck a something and ask a dude to help with your organic garden. Good lord why date with frigged females like this that have the power to post on here. Dudes are dudes and then they play poker, then they feed your cats, then the really start to listen, then they stop, then you are alone, then you realize you will be alone because you complain too much. What if that magazine image you think sucks helps you plant your tomatoes, is a loser that doesn’t really know what’s up but is trying to find a way, rubs your feet, feeds your cat because now you can go to school cause they pay the rent. Yeah you win so big at one more New Raleigh blog. Idiot. One last piece of advise. A lot of people don’t know where they are at and maybe bloom later, my god clothes are clothes, a razor shaves, your ass might be blessed by a nice young man (stricken by simple life image) that likes you. But guess what I hope not, be angry and upset. You have your cats. Idiot.

i'm on a boat04/02 06:50 AM

i love lamp.

Isaac04/02 07:04 AM

Two things.

1. Nice article.

2. The only reason this would bother anyone this much is if it touched a nerve. Why do I get the feeling a lot of the guys complaining own a size S t-shirt?

RaleighRob04/02 08:02 AM

^ Hey now. Some of us wear size S simply because we’re borderline-midgets!

You’re very right though…this obviously touched a few nerves. 46 comments in less than a day…is that a record here?

MC04/02 08:52 AM

I think this is a very well written piece. Sure, in a way Katherine is stereotyping a subset of the downtown Raleigh culture, but she also provides an interesting insight on identity. She questions the identity crisis of her male companions, but also the soul search of our city. The dichotomy is absolutly brilliant. In the four years since being a “transplant”, I feel like Raleigh has gotten beyond it’s growing pains and has started to find some character. On a blog that celebrates the “New Raleigh” Identity, with notes on local music, new bars, and the changing personas of neighborhoods like Five Points, I’m surprised other commenters don’t find the satire in this open letter.

revolu04/02 08:57 AM

incredible article

the comments are better

SI04/02 09:07 AM

Hey Katherine- I think you should do some articles highlighting the different downtown sections—Glenwood South, Fayetteville Street, near the university, etc. And I’m not just saying only write about the stereotypical guys; you could do the stereotypical females too.

MC- I enjoyed your comments.

I’m on a Boat- I enjoyed your name

Rob E.04/02 09:42 AM

Hilarious article and comments. I’ve heard people criticized for stereotyping, but never for stereotyping the wrong people. “No, that’s not right. Stereotype me!”

Matt04/02 10:03 AM

Reading the postings on New Raleigh (or any other popular blog for that matter) is like people watching for the internet age.

Great job Katherine, I must go trim my beard now. Has anyone seen the t-shirt I’ve been wearing everyday for the past week?

JT04/02 10:28 AM

This is hilarity at it’s finest. They need to do one for the I made 20K last year and have a $1000 dress shirt crowd. Equally as funny.

You people take yourselves too seriously

Betsy04/02 10:34 AM

I vote for SI’s idea—more caricatures based on diff Ral neighbs. Think of the field research opportunities.

sarah04/02 10:52 AM

Great idea Si. I think there are a ton of Raleigh stereotypes to satirize. Every area has a certain “type” of person that frequents it.

mgd04/02 10:54 AM

How about buying a $1000 dollar road bike then taking the brakes off and then turning it into a one speed! Then having to use your shoe on your tire to stop. I guess the up side is that you dont have to roll up your pant leg so you dont get grease on it.

Raleigh Everyman I always wondered do you jeans contain spandex.

Micah04/02 12:02 PM

mgd, i think they take the brakes off and turned them into FIXED gears (not “one speeds”) 98% of the time. and i have never seen a fixed gear rider use their shoe to stop the bike, other than for fun. and rolling up your pant leg is MORE important on a fixed gear since the chain is unguarded and entangling your laces or pants in the chainwheel can cause a pretty bad accident with no freewheel installed. also, the fixed gear riders are far from unique to raleigh…in fact the craze got here a little late. it is strange to me that so many here are going on and on about how some of these stereotypes exist here in raleigh like they don’t exist in other places! raleigh is still a sleepy little town. any large city will have all the stereotypical guys, gals, bikes, and XS tee shirt wearing bearded hipsters in droves…they are just more diluted by all the other folks doing their thing (and having their own opinions about other people doing their own thing). i think it is what makes life interesting.

k04/02 12:37 PM

Absolutely, Micah. I was about to comment that the only thing missing from this characterization was the Raleigh Everyman’s plan to move to NYC.

mgd04/02 12:56 PM

I dont call jeans so tight you balls pop out of your change pocket interesting!

Nor with jeans that tight do you need to roll up your pants when riding a bike. I cant think of a bike with a chain guard that doesnt have a banana seat.

Sorry I didnt mean to rag on your bike.

jbee04/02 01:10 PM

This doesn’t belong on New Raleigh. It should be on craigslist.

While rants can be entertaining, I personally wouldn’t want this coming through RSS from a “news blog”. Not like everything on here has to be completely objective (that would be boring), but this is a little too far out of left field compared to other content on here for me.

I hate being a pooper, but I feel it’s my doodie in this case.

jbee04/02 01:13 PM

oh gawd, i’m so dumb.

mgd04/02 01:15 PM

I think the article is relevant on the day it was published. Its just people cant take a joke.

M04/02 01:18 PM

The biggest problem is the title. This guy is nowhere near being “Raleigh Everyman”. It’s not even close. Hell, this guy is more Neo-Canadian young male than anything. Katherine just isn’t sharp enough to pick a better name. And she’s so entrenched in her own narrow world that she can’t see how diverse Raleigh actually is. You go to any bar in Raleigh, and K’s guy is outnumbered 20:1.

Now the obsessive, bitter, nitpicking, eternally single girl? Yeah, that’s someone who you see everywhere in Raleigh and elsewhere.

Micah04/02 01:21 PM

Well, mgd, some people like jeans that tight, and that is well within their rights. If you don’t want to look at them, avert your eyes. In order to rag on my bike, you would have to know it is a 1978 Motobecane Grand Touring, all original, except the tires, saddle, chain and brake pads. It is, and always was, a ten-speed. It also has a chainring guard, like nearly every ten-speed from that era.

Matt04/02 01:54 PM

M,
This piece is satire. It is a comical piece about life downtown. Please understand that there is absolutely no one that believes that this is actually Raleigh’s Everyman. There is no such thing. There are all kinds of wonderful people in this city, which is one of the reasons that Raleigh is such a great city. This piece is not meant to be serious, and is not written by an obsessive, bitter girl. Please understand that the article is made for those who can laugh at themselves because parts of this article describes some, however not all, of us. If it doesn’t describe you, just sit back and laugh the next time you are having a pint and notice someone of whom it does concern, because that is half the fun.

my pants are loose because my balls are so big04/02 01:58 PM

That’s good to know your Bike History, Micah. I bet that comes in handy when conversing over a PBR with someone whose pants are equally as tight and shirt is equally as plaid as yours.

But seriously… mgd has a legitimate question that deserves an answer:

is there spandex in those jeans?

jbee04/02 02:03 PM

haha, my shirt is clearly more plaid than yours.

mgd04/02 02:29 PM

Sorry Im not up on the Eras of les bycicles nor did I know you were speaking of bikes from that era.

But I do believe bikes from that era were prone to having banana seats which I also stated would also have chain guards so technically correct! But it sounds like you changed yours out for a newer model.

By the way my shirt is too small b/c I drink to much PBR at The Times and to many Lattes at Helios! I also like Roster for the Masses. <—this paragraph is not satire.

C>Fate04/02 02:29 PM

Admit I was derailed by the last line as well, until then i was completely engaged in this character and the fond, “yes sweetie, you’re unique, just like everyone else…” whimsical way the author was describing him. Who hasn’t been approached at a public setting and been internally amused by a person trying to impress us by how unique their thoughts, style or interests are (whatever the stereotype)? Would love to encourage the writer to continue - i started digging it’s vibe - but i think someone knocked up against the turntable at the end, and now that’s where the focus is. It happens, keep writing!

Hank04/02 02:51 PM

I think it’s funny and I am in A Rooster for the Masses. Keep it comin’.
Hank

mgd04/02 03:07 PM

I think this has more post than the Smoking one.

Which buy the way they passed the no smoking bill! The votes in

Micah04/02 03:30 PM

hmmm…why the talk about banana seats? i’m certain most (if not all) ten-speeds came with standard saddles from when their popularity boomed in the early 1970’s until the present. perhaps some dime-store ten-speeds came with them, but i never saw them (and i WAS around back then). most of the banana seats i saw were installed on childrens single-speed bikes. oh, and i don’t drink PBR (though maybe i would if i was financially challenged), i don’t think my pants are too tight at all (though i own a few different sizes and cuts), and i have never owned or worn a plaid shirt (to my knowledge). i just checked all of my jeans, and none of them have any spandex (they are all 100% cotton).

DJ04/02 05:29 PM

OMG!!! She’s like the Carrie Bradshaw for hipsters!!!*yawn*

Lisa Jeffries04/02 11:30 PM

Disco Rodeo is still OPEN?!?

Well, that’s news to me.

Tuff Jew04/03 12:29 AM

My God, this has go to be one of the funniest, most thoroughly entertaining things I’ve read in a while. Article and the reaction alike. Nice work Katherine! Way to get folks talking. Shave and a haircut…

MMI (a.k.a., Snidely Whiplash)04/03 06:05 PM

...2 bits.

I mock the make & model bicycle being ridden by all of you Everyman poseurs! Until you can match the simple elegance of my “1 giant wheel and 1 tiny wheel” bimodal velociped, I will sit back & sneer from behind my oh-so-continental handlebar moustache.

P.S.: My cape looks spiffy with a little spandex.

Micah04/03 07:21 PM

Though the dividing line is blurred, the Velocipede came first, and then evolved into the Penny-Farthing (Which has one big wheel and one tiny one).

MMI04/03 09:04 PM

That’s impressive, since I was essentially making the damned thing up. ;oP

WiseOne04/04 09:19 AM

Katherine if you want to wash away the disappointment of the scene-pool in which you wallow, you might want to try dating married men.

neal2zod04/04 11:55 AM

forgot to mention the giant beergut, Katherine.

cara suarez04/04 08:25 PM

as a “30 something” new mom, retired from the dating scene, it is refreshing to know that SOME girls out there still have high standards and strong views. YOU GO GIRL.Never stop the search, and he will appear.
Chill to all the HATERS. Katherine ROCKS.

JMo04/06 06:37 PM

Maybe if you stop going to Raleigh Times and check out The Goat, you’ll see someone more up your alley. I think most of the guys there have all of their teeth.

BTW, I hate the same guys you’re talking about… but they keep all the annoying girls (you) spinning around so that the decent one (just one) can surface.

mgd04/06 06:43 PM

The Goat?! Thats about as much of a joke as this article!

K04/07 11:18 AM

Dear Raleigh Otherman,
I would love to know where you hang out and how to meet you. I am sure a lot of us chronically single, independent, intelligent, attractive, witty women of Raleigh would prefer to meet their match in reality rather than on eharmony, etc. Don’t make me stoop so low as to call Quest.
Name a place where the good guys are.
Thanks

Betsy04/07 01:13 PM

What’s wrong with being single??

jT04/07 03:57 PM

@ Betsy

Well for starters STDs and waking up with someone you don’t have the urge to kick out.

Betsy04/07 04:34 PM

Being single does THAT to you? Good heavens!

MMI04/07 06:16 PM

High-five to Betsy.

gh04/12 04:00 PM

Apparently Raleigh Otherman doesn’t hang out at hipster bars. Is this surprising? Those of us who can rent a car under our own name aren’t likely to dress up like cartoon characters for fear our business colleagues may see us. Obviously you find this type of “edginess” (read - extended adolescence) attractive. I’m betting you would assume a person who isn’t a walking stereotype of disfunction is boring…or not “cool” enough. Like the poster earlier said…they’re selling because women (at least in the cool crowd) are buying.

david04/25 10:18 PM

sounds like you’ve got some frustrations to work out. i’d be willing to bet you’re just as easily stereotyped. dresses down with expensive clothes, has lots of guy friends that don’t stop hanging around when you start dating someone (and you probably don’t stop them either), hangs out in the same “off-beat” bars that all the other “off-beat” types hang out at every night you go out, listens to the same 5 david bowie songs but swears he’s one of your favorites, has two songs by every hip artist on your ipod and no full albums and a distinct lack of music made before 2004 (aside from the bowie, of course).

if you’re so tired of that type, stop pandering to them and stop fucking dating them. noone likes a complainer except people who don’t listen when others are talking.

peace

MMI04/26 01:08 PM

Actually, no one likes people with no sense of humor. STFU and smile every once in a while, people!

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