A skeptical audience voiced their critique of the Hillsborough/Morgan St. roundabout designs at the public hearing on August 15th. If the concerns raised were any indicator of the public’s view as a whole, then the designers will need to re-evaluate their concepts if they want their plan to meet the approval of the citizens… much less be approved by city council.
While some positive comments were made there were many criticisms of the designs. Before showing the feedback, I am first listing the goals and design elements of the initial plans as presented by the project engineer and consultant project manager.
The goals include:
Design information includes:
Note: This roundabout plan is different from others in that there is a left turn only lane coming out of it heading westward and there is a one-way by-pass lane heading westward. See included visuals.
Major concerns raised:
Some positive aspects:
From my perspective it seems as if the majority of the concerns raised involved the design not contributing to pedestrian safety and accessibility well enough and not reducing traffic flow and autocentrism along Hillsborough Street—as was the original intent. The eventual resolution of these two issues will set a precedent for future roundabout development along Hillsborough Street. Whatever the outcome may be, hopefully it will encourage a sense of identity, activity and community that are the underlying goals of this project.
Images and animation courtesy of PBS & J.
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Thanks for taking such detailed notes at the meeting. I tend to agree with the crowd in asking “Are we sure that a traffic signal won’t work well enough?” and that the roundabout plan harms the potential for development at Jade Garden’s parking lot.
I wonder if completing more of a grid of streets here would help out.
1. Build the long-overdue Blair-Hunt-Morgan connection.
2. Extend Morgan through to Ashe, ripping up the (rather sketchy? at least they used to be) Pullen Park Loft Apartments.
That takes a lot of pressure off of Hillsborough and Ashe.
I didn’t even consider the implications for Ashe Ave.
This design is a bit confusing to me, particularly with that “bypass lane” Hillsborough’s westbound. And I’m not sure taking out that stoplight at Ashe is a good idea at all!
If it were me, I’d consider just trying to straighten Morgan out a little, and have a regular stop light interchange at Hillsborough (with plenty of pedestrian/bike crossing room). Then, I’d connect that light with the one at Ashe, so that they’re timed together (sorta like all the lights along Dawson and McDowell are already).
Keep in mind that this design has not been approved yet and changes are still possible before it goes before city council. The engineering firm involved is aware of this article and will be able to view any comments… so comment away!
Seems to me Roundabouts mean that traffic does not stop. Ever since right on red, traffic never stops and peds are playing dodge-car. This has concerned me along time, and I can only think this will make it worse. Lovely, but worse for the foot-people.
I imagine it could get tweaked to death but I like both designs and I think both are an improvement over what is there now.
I am confused about the need for accommodating bikes. I thought they would be in the street with the rest of the traffic taking advantage of the flow, not fighting it.
Regarding pedestrians - and the street does have a lot of pedestrians (and hopefully they will continue to increase in number) I suspect all the pedestrian traffic needs to do is to commit to one side of the street or the other.
The pedestrians generated by the immediate commercial and residential structures or those wishing to cross could potentially be served by a highly structured pedestrian crossing at Ashe/East Park.
On another note - do I remember hearing that a good chunk of that area South of Hillsborough was recently purchased by a developer with housing in mind?
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