Leaving Raleigh to Eat, or There Really are More Vegetarians at the other end of I-40, right?

February, 22, 2008 , by Jordon

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“I really enjoy working there and I like my coworkers.” –Roommate, friend, cook.

“There are a number of things (vegan/vegetarian girlfriend) can eat there.”– R,f,c.

“It’s not cheap, but the prices are reasonable for the quality of the food.” – R,f,c.

“Hey, Lindsay Lohan just did a high-resolution, many-picture photo shoot with Bert Stern reprising Marilyn Monroe’s last sitting photos, and she is extra naked in them and Stern even did that high-contrast black and white thing so you can see all of her freckles really well.” –Fleshbot, sex arm of blogging behemoth Gawker.

One of these statements is unequivocally true. The other three are opinions and therefore subjective, although I think most people would agree that the phrase “a number of things” does not usually imply the number one. Furthermore, an endorsement of price by a close friend and roommate would seem to be likely to take into consideration one’s own financial position. And it is perhaps a bit of a stretch, but having a friend who finds the atmosphere of his workplace to be amicable would seem to imply that one might enjoy that amity when eating there. Like many people from Raleigh (and I mean from Raleigh, as in born in that big old brickpile at the corner of Wade and St. Mary’s) I have a great respect for Durham and Chapel Hill and my own personal little club med, Carrboro. Going out to eat in these cities is a miniature vacation, and there are often truly great meals to be had. This is just the kind of naïve optimism that cost me 120 dollars and any shot at restorative canoodling with a girlfriend too uncomfortable from the high cost and stiff atmosphere, unhappy with her food and therefore not full, and eventually too drunk from the stress-drinking and empty stomach to be a legally consenting sex partner.

So I suppose I should get to the actual restaurant review, and in taking a page from my higher-ups at the NCSU composition mill, I will start out by stroking the ego of this un-Durham, un-Southern, turd-polishing machine. The red velvet cake is fantastic! Go there and try it, it is really awesome. It is the best red velvet cake I have ever had, and I am a bit of an enthusiast. You know Ms. Nadine at the farmer’s market, with the cakes and pies? Not as good. And the duck breast, really nicely cooked with a gorgeous little drizzle on it.

So first, that great insult of the fine-dining world to the vegetarians among us, the vegetable plate. There were five vegetable plates ordered at our table and there were uninspired at best. For 12 dollars, the hungry vegetarian gets half an acorn squash filled with lentils, resembling nothing so much as a starchy sort of mock papaya. What does the vegan get for 12 dollars? The same thing, but the insipid bits of cheese sprinkled on top that did little to help the vegetarian have become an obstacle for the vegan. Did I forget to mention the cheese? So did our waiter. I have heard that the veggie plate at Vin is top-notch and have tasted at very reasonable prices truly fantastic vegetables at a number of southern institutions around Raleigh, the gnomic and little-frequented Larry’s Southern Kitchen among them. Add the cost of gas out to Durham and back and any but the most masochistic vegans and vegetarians are better off not making the trip to Watts Grocery.

I am not a vegetarian, vegan, macrobiot, or even a particularly healthy eater. I eat everything, and if it’s good I will have some more please. So I was particularly excited by the Wilted Frisee Salad with Chicken Livers and Lardons, Caramelized Onions and Sherry Shallot Vinaigrette. Doesn’t that sound good? I bet it is good, but unluckily for us (on a Friday night, towards the end of regular service) they were out. That wouldn’t be worth mentioning except that they were out of other things. Bread for instance. At a restaurant of such supposed quality and such demonstrably high prices, I expect bread (or something creatively replacing it), and I expect it to be good. And there should be more if you eat yours. Maybe I’m a spoiled brat, but who hasn’t sat starving because of their busy day and late meal and seen the waitron bringing bread as a milk and honey laden messiah?

I usually appreciate a restaurant being out of things. It implies a commitment to freshness and seasonality. But if your menu consists of 8 entrees, 6 apps, and 4 sides you cannot afford to be out of more than a couple of things. What you can afford is a waitstaff and bartender who might have a little more amity to smooth over the bumpy table experience. Before you all start howling, we were not a bunch of bitchy yuppies but had among our party at least four current or former food service professionals and we were nice. But the hauteur of the bartender when I asked what was on that one tap down at the end that I couldn’t see, the diffidence of our waiter when he told us of the various things we’d ordered that we couldn’t have, these were for me, worse than hairs or bugs in the food. I don’t mind a hair or a bug, it’s just protein after all, but to get the strip club feeling, you know the one, where everything happening is a conspiracy to fleece you as quickly and with as little effort as possible, this for me is a deal breaker. Our check was astronomical, and surprisingly so. No one had ordered an appetizer, entrée, and dessert. Most had gone for one appetizer or a shared entrée or like me, a few sides. And the check was gigantic, of such a size, in fact, it drove some people who were being treated to dinner by their significant others to drink to the point of utter dissipation. For the money we spent that night in Durham, we could have had a whole night out in Raleigh, with a great meal served (and possibly cooked) by our friends, and strong cheap drinks mixed (and probably served) by our friends. Would our experience have better if were friends with the waitstaff? Do Durham kids get bad service at Vin or Humble Pie? I hope not. Maybe it is just my overriding love of my hometown, but even our most petulant, moue-mouthed hipster waitrons in their all-blacks seem more eager to please than the “I’m pretending to live in a big city cause I’m from somewhere that I blame for my not knowing how to be nice even though it is my own damn fault cause come on, there are plenty of friendly people in New York, Chicago, (other cities not so southern as this one)”

Moral: Support your local (as in Raleigh-located) fine-dining establishments for that special occasion and don’t believe the hype (no matter how close to home it may come from) that would send you careening down I-40 only to come back broke with your tail between your legs. J. Betski’s for example has not once in my experience run out of the best chicken-liver mousse in town, they have a terrifically skilled and fantastically friendly bartender and no one pretends that it is veg-friendly. That said, I bet if you asked nice on a weekend night pretty late the chef would do something for you. And that’s what it is really about, isn’t it: personal interaction between the chef and the diner, the waiter, and the bartender. I want to feel like a hungry person getting fed rather than a sucker with a glowing wallet.

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  • emily
    02/22 02:52 PM

    I don’t know, it may be worth the drive to go to The Lantern.  We went last year for my birthday it was one of the best experiences I have ever had.  My boyfriend did mention- several times over the course of the night, that we pretty much drove an hour round trip for dinner.
    Still- lots of wonderful places around here that I am always happy to support.

  • Vince Carmody
    02/22 03:24 PM

    J Betski’s.  Love it.  I have to say that if a restaurant is out of bread, then you should get the hell out.  Seriously.  Who runs out of bread?  Raleigh has plenty of options, however, nothing shows serious can-do attitude than cooking it yourself and (possibly) your shot at “restorative canoodling”.

  • RaleighRob
    02/22 04:33 PM

    After 13 years in Raleigh, I obviously know many of the good local restaurants here well (sometimes they even recognize me).  However I have made it a point to try many different places in Durham, Chapel Hill, and Carrboro.
    The Triangle is a great region for dining and I don’t see why I should limit myself to just one side of the Triangle.  (Goodness knows I dream of Raleigh getting an Elmos and/or Spotted Dog!)
    That said, it’s usually for special occasions…or back when I was single and had a date with a Durhamer or Chapel Hillian.

  • Rafe
    02/22 05:51 PM

    My coworkers who’ve eaten at Watts Grocery have reported uniformly great experiences. (One of them is a vegetarian whose significant other is a lactose-intolerant vegetarian and thus for purposes of dining, leans toward vegan.)

    I don’t think Watts Grocery is dismissible based on one bad experience, any more than it would be worth recommending based on one good experience.

  • Ross Grady
    02/22 05:54 PM

    In reference to your title, since the other end of I-40 is Los Angeles, yes, there are more vegetarians there. wink

    I’ve had a couple of great meals at Watts, but they were both at non-peak hours. They started packing the weekend nights on pretty much their opening weekend, and things apparently haven’t let up since (although if the reports about mediocre service, running out of food, & etc continue, I guess that will self-correct over time).

    If one were to want to return, I’d suggest brunch, although even then there isn’t going to be as much vegetarian-loving as you’d probably be looking for (although, FWIW, I was taken to brunch there by one of my hardest-core vegetarian friends).

    In more general response to your primary point: things are tough all over for the vegetarians. Durham and Chapel Hill may seem hippie-er than Raleigh, but it’s mostly of the “damn this organic free-range beef tastes good!” variety. See also the giant section in the Indy a few weeks ago on just this very topic.

  • John
    02/22 11:04 PM

    Ross-

    >In more general response to your primary point: things are tough all over for the vegetarians.

    I haven’t read the indy article, but I don’t agree with all areas lacking in options. When I go to Chapel Hill to visit my girlfriend, there are several options available that are not a plate of grilled vegetables. Here in Raleigh, there is Sadlack’s and maybe irregardless (never been), and I can’t think of any others.

    This is perhaps the only subject in which I’ll ever say this, but Chapel Hill does have a leg up over Raleigh in being vegetarian friendly. From Elmos to Spotted Dog as RaleighBob mentioned to Sage, there are many that serve plates that aren’t a couple vegetables pulled from the grill. Hell, I’d be happy if I could just order a few side items.

    I will also mention that we (vegetarians) bring it upon ourselves and we shouldn’t expect that it will be easy going out to eat. As one server from Dos Taquitos Centro correctly stated: “Most people just eat meat.” She has a point.

  • RaleighRob
    02/22 11:42 PM

    ^Yeah and at least Raleigh’s got Irregardless that does very well for the veggie crowd. 
    Also, most of Raleigh’s decent restaurants will have at least one meatless entree on the menu.  Hayes-Barton Cafe, Fraziers, Riviera, Humble Pie, among others, are some I recall seeing a meatless item or two.  (Granted, often it’s a token pasta dish, but you take what you can get.)

    And of course that doesn’t even touch upon the ethnic selections.  Certain ones, at least.  I’ve yet to go to a Mexican, Thai, Indian, Middle Eastern or Italian restaurant that didn’t have some non-meat dishes. 
    (However others are worse…French, German and Brazilian are usually very meat-based.)

  • Woody
    02/23 07:04 AM

    Jordon- pretty silly to make such broad generalizations like you do.  I too almost exclusively frequent Raleigh establishments, but would never talk down to these entire communities based on one bad experience.  Oh, and if you’re thinking about going somewhere you’ve never been you should probably use the internet or telephone to find out the price range if that is a concern.  Not trying to be rude, but in this day and age there is no reason to act surprised at prices you could easily have known beforehand.  You don’t like the food, fine.  Value isn’t there, fine, but don’t look for things to complain about.

  • Dawson
    02/25 05:43 PM

    I for one, don’t understand the fascination with J.Betskis.  I took family and friends there from Chicago a couple of weekends ago and while the appetizer was very good, that was it.

    Our waiter, Ed, I believe was less than amiable.  I ordered the Braised Beef and honestly, it was a hunk of dried out stew beef that was a chore to eat.  Whenever someone asked for even the slightest of variation on the menu item, he stated that the chef won’t do that.  I think someone wanted to switch a side item.

    The beer was good and the ambiance was nice, but outside of one of those in our party who ordered chicken, nothing was short of below average.

    I really wanted it to be good and had to apologize to my out of town guests for a bad and relatively expensive meal.  I say relatively, because for about 5 dollars we could have gotten a much better meal from the self serve salad bar at harris teeter or even K&W;.

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