Overheard: News and Observer on Hopscotch

Overheard: News and Observer on Hopscotch

September, 07, 2010 , by Jedidiah

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“Whatever niche Hopscotch finds, South By Southwest’s place at the top seems secure.” David Menconi.


The News & Observer posted two articles in Sunday’s big-box-ad-spilling paper dealing with this week’s Hopscotch Music Festival. Too bad both articles painted a picture of a festival that is barely comparable to SXSW or Coachella and is bound to lose money. From my discussions with the organizers of Hopscotch, neither of these are priorities or even agendas of the festival.

Why compare Hopscotch to SXSW? Coachella? Why not let’s just support the Independent’s attempt to bring out the local music scene in our area by bringing in a handful of national acts and mix them up into a festival that could be one of the best uses of all the music clubs in Downtown Raleigh, ever. Hell, we’re already for next year. GO HOPSCOTCH!

N&O: It’ll be Hard to Unseat Austin (Too bad they aren’t trying)

N&O: Hopscotch is music to the ears of Raleigh boosters (P.S. It’s music to our ears too)

Also, by the way News & Observer, stop using that ridiculous Tynt Copy/Paste service when copying a link from your website, we just linked to your site a few times in this one article and don’t need a reminder where our information comes from. Thanks.

Tynt: keeping websites paranoid of link backs since 2010.








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  • Jortles Scrozzelle
    09/07 02:01 PM

    They could have included a link to the Hopscotch site in the article while they are at it.  wtf

  • Bill
    09/07 03:15 PM

    The N&O rarely, rarely, gives credit for story ideas to blogs that originate a story.  I think local blogs usually do a great job of attributing news and quotes to the N&O but it is not a two way street.  It seems they are also not so generous when a rival media outlet sponsors an event.

  • Charlie
    09/07 04:08 PM

    The article on SXSW might have been unfair, but the article on Hopscotch was a really well-written piece. The article on Hopscotch mentioned Coachella, but did not say it was “barely comparable”, or even try to make a comparison. Nor did it downplay the festival. In fact, if you actually read the article, it’s exactly the opposite. Menconi is a great writer, often raising questions (esp. on ticket brokers) that blogs like New Raleigh wouldn’t even have the smarts to think about. Way to put down one of the area’s best writers and make false accusations.

  • Harry Seaward
    09/07 04:21 PM

    you know how the comment section of newraleigh is pretty much a bunch of people who hate everything about most stuff?  this kinda reminded me of that, but instead of complaining in the comment section of the N&O article, they just did it here.  at least its a better use of space than hobo erotica.

  • Tony Woodard
    09/07 07:17 PM

    The comparison between SXSW and Hopscotch was obviously a reference to the NYT blurb four months ago which compared one with the other.

  • Bill
    09/07 09:29 PM

    How is the comparison is an obvious reference to the NYT?  An attribute, quote, or link?

  • Tony Woodard
    09/08 11:45 AM

    The New York Times was laudatory, calling Hopscotch a “...promising new festival (that) reads like a mini South by Southwest…” The News and Observer, chaffing at the Indy sponsored event getting NYT coverage, decides to write a last minute ‘we’ll be the judge of that’ piece. It would have been beyond naive to think that the N&O would have been anything but dismissive.

    Oh, and Bill, if you are looking for a link to the original article, try Google. It’s opens a world of information up to you!

  • Bill
    09/08 12:45 PM

    Tony,  my comment was just to illustrate my initial point - it seems it is N&O policy not to give attribution to outside sources, whether they be blogs or the NYT.  It would have been easy for the article to start with that NYT blurb as a starting point and it would have provided context for the piece.

  • dmn&o
    09/08 11:47 PM

    “The N&O rarely, rarely, gives credit for story ideas to blogs that originate a story. I think local blogs usually do a great job of attributing news and quotes to the N&O but it is not a two way street. It seems they are also not so generous when a rival media outlet sponsors an event.”

    I’m sure I’m going to regret this, but I would like to correct a mis-impression you seem to have—that I somehow “stole” this story idea from “local blogs” that “originated” it. That’s just stupid, although you are right about one thing. Yes, a local blog did break the news about Hopscotch back in January: mine. Here, I’ll make it easy for you:

    http://blogs.newsobserver.com/beat/gambling-on-hopscotch

    While I’m at it, the SXSW comparison was nothing I cribbed from the NYT. If memory serves, the first person I heard use that analogy was Grayson Currin when we had our first conversation about Hopscotch late last year. And I would question the reading-comprehension skills of anyone who found that story “dismissive.” But you guys go right on yammering about the evils of the mainstream media.

    Hugs & kisses,
    David Menconi/MSM slave

  • Tuff Jew
    09/09 04:30 AM

    David Menconi is a good writer and I have respect for the N&O.  That having been said, it really does not matter too much what they write or do not write about Hopscotch.  The people in this city will decide whether this thing will sink or swim. 

    This festival is a huge deal for all of us who care about music and how it ties into the future of our city.

    I for one could care less about comparing Hopscotch to SXSW.  We are not Austin, nor are we NYC, Atlanta or anywhere else.  This is Raleigh and I am proud of what Grayson and everyone at the Indy have accomplished in pulling this together.

    Why waste time (regardless of who made the analogy first) talking about how another city does it?  We have our own town and our own culture. 

    Perhaps the N&O would like to have their own festival… until then, actions speak louder than words.

  • Bill
    09/09 11:09 AM

    David, don’t conflate my comment with the others.  You quoted my comment in your response but seem to mis-understand it.  I was writing specifically about New Raleigh’s comment about the N&O using the Tynt service for links: “Also, by the way News & Observer, stop using that ridiculous Tynt Copy/Paste service when copying a link from your website, we just linked to your site a few times in this one article and don’t need a reminder where our information comes from. Thanks.”  I don’t think the N&O is as generous about linking to outside sites, or acknowledging when something appeared in a blog first. Am I incorrect? That’s not accusing you of stealing a story idea.  I don’t see that as Big Media evil, just the way McClatchy tries to monetize page views and keep readers within its own site.  It was another commenter that used the term “dismissive”.

  • cam
    09/09 12:20 PM

    This article is further proof that New Raleigh is a giant joke run by big whiny children. 

    I think at this point, the only redeeming factor is entertainment value akin to watching series of train wrecks.

  • Jack
    09/09 02:58 PM

    @Cam… I remember picking up the N&O one time at the beginning of a workday and the above-the-fold front page headline was about an American Idol contestant who was from North Carolina.  On the same news day, 5 US Army soldiers from NC were killed in Iraq.  Want to talk about a journalism train wreck?

    If you don’t like the site, don’t visit it.  The fact that you choose to take time, however briefly, to respond to what is on it proves that it strikes a chord on some level.

  • Charlie
    09/09 03:04 PM

    @Jack And how is what a journalist writes in any way related to what an editor decides to put on the front of a paper?

  • Analogy Major
    09/09 05:02 PM

    Today in Raleigh, Shaw U named their first female president and there was a bomb threat at the Attorney General’s office.  Yet, New Raleigh’s top story is about Hopscotch schedules.  This site must lack credibility.

  • logantv
    09/09 05:16 PM

    @ Analogy Major

    wahhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

  • Analogy Major
    09/09 05:46 PM

    I was joking, fruitcake.

  • Don'tTakeItSoHard
    09/11 11:19 AM

    NR’s response to a perfectly solid piece of journalism seems oddly thin-skinned, especially for a blog known to sneer at other downtown happenings (e.g. the thoroughly demonized Downtown Live series).  Call me crazy, but I dig having someone report answers to reasonable questions—like how much this undertaking costs and where it fits in the big picture.  Would love to see someone from The Independent comment in defense of good ol’ fashioned journalism.  There’s still time ...

  • lawndweller
    09/11 05:00 PM

    Where exactly does the “good ol’ fashioned journalism” come in?  Hopscotch is not SXSW… in other news the sky is blue and fish live underwater…

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