Today, once again, City Council will address the issue of Lightner. The long debated project has met resistance from half of the City Council. The arguments against the new public safety center have been ever-changing. In this guest post, City Councilor Nancy McFarlane presents her thoughts on the existing building and why moving forward with Lightner makes sense. - Editors
Nancy McFarlane, Raleigh City Councilor
There has been considerable talk recently about the wisdom of keeping the existing Raleigh Municipal Building.
This building has been held high as an example of many things, ranging from a testament to history to a masterful work of art.
I’m not sure that these comments are about the same building that I know, but I would like to address some of the issues associated with the building.
The History
While I agree that Milton Small was a great architect, he was also bound by the constraints of those employing him around 1960.
He completed a number of very handsome modern buildings in Raleigh. However, most agree that this is not one of them. This building is the product of a government that put its’ resources into cheap, utilitarian buildings. The cinder block walls and low ceilings do nothing to foster any kind of nostalgia. And they certainly do not produce the type of environment where anyone would enjoy working.

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As for its legacy, let’s look at some of the history associated with this building.
During a recent tour, we noticed how many small bathrooms there are scattered throughout this building.
This is because this building was built during a time when there were separate “colored” bathrooms. That’s not exactly a history that I want to honor.
As we can see from this picture, there is not even a handicapped accessible bathroom in the entire building.
What we can do to preserve the true history of this site is to continue to dedicate this location to the men and women who serve and protect our city every day. We can equip them with the tools they need to do their jobs well.
Traditionally the core of a city evolves on the footprint of previous development. As each succeeding generation adds new elements, the tapestry of the city grows in complexity and richness. New is not always the best answer and buildings have been lost that should have been retained. This was particularly true in the post World War II era.
As a result, over the past 30 years we have become more aware of the history of our cities and concerned with the preservation of work that is significant for historic or architectural reasons. We need to examine every case carefully. But that does not imply that we should simply save everything because it exists. The vibrancy of a city comes from selectively reinventing portions of the urban environment. Sometimes that means renovation and sometimes it means a new project. We must examine the Municipal Building and its site in the context of downtown Raleigh’s evolution.
The Reality
Nothing in the core of this building meets code - elevators, stairs, bathrooms, ingress/egress, and internal traffic patterns, to name a few. The fire exits are too close and too narrow, and the building is far from handicapped accessible. There is no fresh air intake into the ventilation system. There is asbestos in the flooring, and even the terazzo floors that some have spoken of having value would most likely have to be torn out. The only wood in this building is some wall paneling.

This building has a long list of needs. From just the items that need to be brought to code, we know that the building would have to be gutted, saving only the facade and underlying structure. That’s a pale green project.
Once we are left with the skin of the building, we have a new list of problems.
The walls are solid brick and concrete alternating with windows, presenting a problem when trying to run wires. With the original 1960’s ceilings and light fixtures, we have to run wires through the floors, leading to raised plug and junctions boxes and preventing cubicles.

Some rooms have dropped ceilings to accommodate our new technologies. An 8-foot ceiling that you can touch does not produce a good work environment.
Also, the windows are all single pain glass, and therefore, not energy efficient.
It does not meet any of our current energy efficiency standards.
It is not insulated.
To preserve the skin, it would have to have insulated glass installed from the inside and there is some question as to whether the framing can hold the new glass and insulation.
We have already spent millions of dollars to design a new building which will be greener than anything that can be done to this building.
This is without a doubt the best time to build. Interest rates are down, and construction costs are at an all-time low.
Many projects are currently being built at a 30 percent savings. And let’s not forget the 1800 jobs associated with the construction of this new facility.
We want our police and fire departments to use new technology to protect us and stay ahead of problems that the average citizen would not conceive.
Let’s not ask them to do their job with 1960’s equipment.
The Need
I don’t think anyone would argue that we are not in need of new facilities for our 911 call center and other city employees. Our 911 Emergency Response Center is woefully inadequate and faces serious facility issues. It benefits our public safety officers to be able to work together and to communicate effectively. While the temporary facility on Six Forks Road is adequate for now, it is not a long-term solution. The police must make countless trips downtown to the courthouse and evidence room. As a small business owner, I understand the importance of having your managers available to interact and meet face-to-face. The most efficient and safe situation is for our police chief, fire chief and city manager to be within close proximity.
The facility and resources that we provide our police and fire fighters says volumes about how we value about them as a community.
In the past, comments have been made that this site on Nash Square would be “wasted” if used for city employees.
The key to good public safety is having great people. Telling these 800 public servants that the value of real estate is more important than they are is a poor way to achieve that goal.
There are still adjustments that need to be made to this project. We are currently looking at the possibility of a scaled down structure. Going back to square one is not a fiscally responsible option because the city has already invested millions of dollars in design and development. The longer we delay, the more it continues to cost the city and taxpayer.
The process of undoing all of the work to date, re-evaluating all of the project parameters, including site selection and acquisition, site approvals, and programmatic distribution and building another (or four more) designs is short sighted and fiscally irresponsible.
We have to look at the big picture and make decisions that will be the best for Raleigh today, and 30 years from now. We should not make a short-term decision for the sake of political expediency. Public safety is the core function of the city. It is our biggest responsibility. We need to look to the future, while honoring our past.
Let’s honor the city workers who have given their careers, and even their lives, to keeping the City of Raleigh safe. Officer Paul Hale was killed in the line of duty in front of Ligon Middle School. I went to the county’s memorial for our fallen officers on May 10. I was the only local elected official there that day. I spoke to Officer Hale’s mother to express my sympathy and to let her know just how much her son’s sacrifice means to us all. She thanked me for the memorial tribute on the wall of the current building to honor her son’s sacrifice. She then said that she wished it was in a better, nicer building because the condition the officers work in says a lot about how the city values them. I was profoundly embarrassed.
Let’s show our community that we are proud of our public safety workers by building them a state-of-the-art building that helps them do their jobs well. Let’s preserve the history of public service at this site by building a public safety center in the heart of downtown where its doors can be open to citizens and visitors alike. Let’s prioritize public safety as crucial to the success of our community, for today and for generations to come.
Nancy McFarlane Clarence E. Lightner Public Safety Center Raleigh Municipal Building
Amen Nancy!
This post is more about what’s wrong with the old building and less about what’s right with the proposed tower.
Everyone already recognizes the inadequacy if the existing building. But the debate isn’t between the old building and Lightner. It’s between Lightner as designed and alternative design.
Faulting the old building that’s already been moved out of doesn’t address the issue at hand and only seeks to distract the public from the fact that the proponents of Lightner don’t have any good reasons to support it, other than the fact that Lightner is pretty.
Nice post! Great rebuttal. It’s level headed without any political agenda. Thanks for being a voice of reason when so many are being unreasonable.
I am so happy to see this! There has been so much debate on this project…the site, the building, the purposes and people housed, the cost…
This post presents very nicely why the site is right, and the building is wrong. As our City continues to grow, so will the demands put on our Public Safety staff. If we expect them to give us their best, we should be happy to do the same for them in return. Some projects are worth the investment, and the Lightner Center is definitely one of them! The time is right for an investment of this kind, and no one is more deserving of a new, high-tech facility!
Let’s move forward with the Lightner Center!! Nice job Councilor McFarlane, keep it up!
Au contraire, I don’t believe it’s “short sighted and fiscally irresponsible” to redesign Lightner. That’s throwing good money after bad. What would be shorted sighted and irresponsible, however, is tweaking the Lightner design haphazardly in an attempt to win Odom’s vote. That kind of “architecture by amateurs” made a mess of the current Wake County Courthouse, the design of which was tweaked by the Commissioners who took out an elevator bank to reduce cost—and thereby made the structure a bear to use for the next 30 years.
Preach on Preacher!!!
This anti-spend feeling which so many have now against everything is gonna leave us in a infrastructure hole in a few years. Im completely againt social welfare programs, but when it comes to infrastructure its worth the tax payers money.
Well stated. We need to show our support for up-to-date law enforcement and public safety by our deeds, not just our words. It is key to the vitality of the city that the new safety center be in the heart of the city. It is time to invest in this critical need that will show we value our law enforcement and safety personnel and their charge.
Charles Malone
www.charlesmalonencsenate.com
Nancy,
You’ve hit the nail on the head. The building just has to go. Im not even in favor of a scaled down version though. Might as well build it bigger now for future growth than it getting too small too quick. We will SAVE more money the sooner we start the project!
Fine, knock down the building, and sell the lot. Build the new one on S Wilmington. Have any of you driven down that way lately? Like around the Bain building? I’m sure there is plenty of cheaper land there.
The point is really that we need to honor and equip our police department with a proper, state-of-the-art building in a central downtown location. This building is just not worth saving for that purpose!
Thanks New Raleigh for running both sides of the argument. Thanks to those City Councilors who are working hard to find an acceptable compromise.
Why not sell the lot and buy one on Moore square. That would be a perfect place for increase presence of law enforcement. That alone would draw businesses and residents to that side of town which we need.
We started with 4 public squares. Now we’re down to two. You wanna bring us down to one by building on Moore Square? And how does a police/fire/emergency services headquarters building bring residents and businesses (other than a coffee shop or a diner) to a neighborhood?
I could maybe see the argument to sell the lot and build on the empty lot next to Campbell Law, but that probably wouldn’t be any less expensive.
I think Rostel means building it next to moore Square not right on it…
I think it makes sense to build the Lightner Center in an area of downtown that needs a catalyst to kick-start development. I agree with the gentleman who proposes building it in the Southern part of downtown. This area is lagging yet is still close enough to courthouse facilities to be convenient for conducting business. The site on Nash square could better be used for commercial development. I’d rather see a facility here that attracts crowds instead of repelling them.
Yeah Sluv,
I meant bordering moore square. Why not build it on the opposite corner of the Wake County Building. That would be even closer to everything else it needs to be close to and would give a great density boost in that spot. Just build it somewhere and dont scale it down. We’ll need the space some day. Come on city council. Yall are like Obama with the oil spill.
If was not prudent to spend 20 million before the building was approved on design and purchase of other buildings to house RPD until new building built.
If they want to honor the police and other workers give them a decent COLA increase or raise since they haven’t gotten one in 3 years. Councils & Mgmt’s poor planning means higher taxes later and who puts 911 on top of 20 story building?
So basically we’ve spent 20 million in taxpayer dollars to decide to keep an old, inefficient building. Go Raleigh! Thats what I call leadership.
I’m so tired of hearing about this massive project’s “low construction costs”. Only out of touch politicians could think $683 per square foot is a bargain.
And now these cowards are proposing to take on more debt so they don’t have to face voters with tax increases *now*. We’re already paying $200M a year to service the massive debt they’ve loaded on us.
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