Acree Friday, December 12, 2008

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What Business in Another City Would You Transplant to Raleigh?


Image courtesy of fancyapint.com.

For this week’s Q&A we fantasized that the normal rules of physics didn’t apply and some fairy godmother of urban development had granted us a wish to transplant one business to Raleigh from another city. Once we got going we couldn’t shut up about the places we miss from the cities of our past, and many of us had a hard time picking just one.

You know the drill: See our answers below; tell us yours in the comments.

Acree

After living in Atlanta for the past few years it’s hard to avoid making unfair comparisons, especially regarding nightlife, but I trust that as Raleigh grows much of what I miss from the big city will evolve here. So only one truly irreplaceable business comes to mind: Jake’s Ice Cream Shop. In my under-21 years, friends and I would cram into the hallway-sized Jake’s down our street several nights a week for a quick study break and end up spending half an hour tasting flavors as strange as Bertie Bott’s Every Flavor Beans. Some personal favorites were Mexican Hot Chocolate—which was, I swear, spicy—and Key Lime Piescream. I never had the pleasure of trying Coffee & Donuts, but I would bet you a cone it tastes exactly like a glazed donut dipped in coffee. Customers can even suggest ideas for new flavors. Jake’s homemade ice cream and relaxed atmosphere are a refreshing relief from franchised shops where the flavors range from sugary to more sugary, and the décor consists of fluorescent lighting and chrome chairs.

When a chain replaced my neighborhood Jake’s, I discovered their much larger location in downtown Decatur that occupied an old house on a residential side street. You ordered your ice cream or coffee in the front area of the house, then wandered back through the many sitting rooms to recline in the book-lined library by the fireplace, play a board game at an old card table in the room wallpapered with maps, or bang out a song on the piano upstairs. If one of the rooms had housed a wardrobe that led to Narnia, Jake’s would have satisfied all my childhood fantasies.

Sadly, that Jake’s eventually moved as well, hooking up with an independent children’s bookstore on a main drag in downtown Decatur. The locations I remember are gone forever, and perhaps I’m past the age of being enchanted by ice cream shops, but I’d still jump up and down like a college freshman if one of those old Jake’s popped up in Raleigh.

Jedidiah

Because I can’t narrow it down to one business, I’ll mention three businesses that all share a theme of art and alcohol.

Kingsland Road in Shoreditch used to be one of the dirtiest streets of London. A few years ago, it flipped 180 degrees and became the hippest area in town. Leading the way was a very discrete bar called Dream Bags Jaguar Shoes. Created by knocking down a wall between two old retail stores and leaving the original signs, Jagbags, as we used to call it, was a haven for artists, music lovers and drinkers alike. Each month the bar completely re-renders the interior and transforms it into an art installation. Each night a different DJ comes to play, and the space morphs from relaxing daytime art lounge to dark disco den: a place to sit and think; a place to dance and drink. There’s even a kabob shop next door that’ll bring your take-out order to the bar for you. Bickett Gallery had dreams of being such, and some days it was, but not any longer. Let’s bring back the art disco den to Raleigh, this time in the urban setting.

There’s an unassuming shop in Paris called Colette that sparks trends in a way that puts Wootini to shame. Some would call it the store of the future. From music to vinyl figurines to coffee and clothing, Colette has what every design lover would want in a store. Say you see a CD on the wall that you want to buy but would like to listen to first; Colette has just what you need. You don’t take the CD to the counter for assistance, you simply walk over to the iPods hanging from the adjacent wall; they have every album in the store programmed on them. Time and space saved, unique experience created. Downstairs is also a coffee shop and upstairs is a clothing store. Colette’s stock turns over almost weekly and, more than likely, you’ll want to buy everything in the store months before you see it anywhere else. You know that kitschy gift section of Urban Outfitters that everyone loves? It’s probably modeled after Colette.

We may be getting a Contemporary Art Museum in the Warehouse District but what Raleigh really needs is a museum space like the ICA in London. Located on the mall in London just 100 yards from Buckingham Palace, the ICA can’t decide what it wants to be, so it is everything: bookshop, independent theatre, art gallery, music venue, restaurant, lecture hall, bar and club, performing exceptionally well at each. The space constantly changes, so each time you come to the museum you have no idea what you’re getting into. Maybe you’ll have to crawl through a tunnel to see the art. Maybe televisions will be hanging from the ceiling in the bar. Maybe the art is actually the people in the space. Maybe you’ll see a film. Maybe you’ll buy a book on pop art or Nietzsche. Maybe you are just there to hear a lecture or read a newspaper while having a couple of beers and a soup and sandwich. All this in a building smaller than what CAM will be. It is also where I watched the 2004 US election results come in, as they hosted an election watch party.

Aislinn


Image courtesy of Visit Hillsborough.

I’d like to see a locally owned grocery store come to Raleigh that focuses on local, organic and sustainable products. I don’t have a particular business in mind, I just wish I could get organic groceries and local produce year-round without spending an arm and a leg—people don’t call a certain Wade Avenue business Whole Paycheck for nothing. I want somewhere I know any premium I pay for these specialty goods will circulate back through the local economy instead of getting funneled to a distant headquarters.

Nearby examples include Chapel Hill’s Weaver Street Market and the newly forming Durham Central Market. Come on Raleigh, let’s get with the program. Ever since Noah’s Food Coop died in 1996, we’ve been at the mercy of a national chain. I heard about a Raleigh Food Coop mobilizing a few years ago, but it seems to have fizzled. Let’s join the rest of the Triangle and have some consumer choice in our sustainable eating habits.

Rusty

From a city where folks work with their hands comes a restaurant for folks who know how to eat. Slyman’s Restaurant in Cleveland makes what is arguably the best corned beef sandwich on the planet. The restaurant is nationally known, and for good reason. Never have I visited the city without making time to stop in for a sandwich. (Corned beef, original style, is the way to go.) The take-out line always reaches out the front door and around the block. You’ll be served with sixteen ounces (you read that right, a full pound) of the most succulent, slow roasted, mouth-watering red meat you’ve ever tasted. If the Slyman family could be persuaded to open one in Raleigh, you can be sure that the business suit and the construction worker alike will have a new favorite lunch destination.

Ladye Jane

My wish has been granted. The business that I would transplant from another city is currently in the works here in Raleigh, and The Flying Biscuit Cafe looks like it is set to open soon. If you are not familiar with the Atlanta eatery (which also has a Charlotte location), then prepare yourself for one of the best breakfasts/brunches you have ever had. Being a southern girl, I am very picky about my grits and biscuits, and this place has hands down the best biscuits AND grits I have ever eaten. Not only do they serve their breakfast all day, but they also have an eclectic offering of sandwiches and other goodies like hummus, black bean quesadillas, and fried green tomatoes. The new location is a few doors down from the Cameron Grill in Cameron Village, and I will literally be waiting at the door the day it opens.

View their full menu at www.flyingbiscuit.com and get a taste of what you’re in for.

  • Cindy H.12/12 01:11 PM

    I’m with the suggestion for local groceries. My take on it is what I saw in Queens, during a GEL experience there a couple of years ago: jewish shop with jewish specialities, including its own butcher section, russian bakery, turkish grocer with its own butcher, etc.  I LOVED that and each shop was small and easy (although not efficient with tight spaces!) to manuever.  This is what I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to see in Raleigh—as multi-cultural grocery experience.

  • DCMetroRaleigh12/12 01:40 PM

    I would love for Busboys and Poets to come to Raleigh. Busboys is a restaurant/coffee shop/bar/lounge/bookstore that attracts a very hip, progressive, ethnically diverse crowd. 
    Busboys was founded by Andy Shallal in 2005, and has been described as a haven for writers, thinkers and performers from America’s progressive social and political movements. The name refers to American poet Langston Hughes, who worked as a busboy at the Wardman Park Hotel in the 1930s, prior to gaining recognition as a poet.


    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/13/AR2007091301803.html


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Busboys_and_Poets

  • please sir12/12 02:13 PM

    IKEA and Anthropologie!  Ok, I know they are corporate, but they are too good to pass up.

  • RaleighRob12/12 02:15 PM

    Well they’re not that far away, but would do great in Raleigh:  Durham & Carrboro’s Elmo’s Diner. 

    I’ve always thought Elmo’s would be great on Hillsborough Street.  Or perhaps the Warehouse District area.  If only!

  • richardfoc12/12 02:36 PM

    My vote is for a Wegman’s grocery store. They are mostly in NY and they make Harris Teeter look like Food Lion.

    http://www.wegmans.com

    And thanks for the tip on Flying Biscuit. Just checked out the website and I can’t wait for that to open. Anybody have any idea when that will happen?

  • Betsy12/12 02:41 PM

    A Milwaukee dance hall.  You think I am kidding!  POLKA!!

  • matt12/12 02:45 PM

    From San Francisco - line The Fillmore up next to Osha Thai, next North Beach’s Italian French Bakery

    Of course… we could have the Fillmore in the huge, wonderful, empty building on Moore Square, but I think the Mayor has that scheduled to be another parking garage…..

    http://www.yelp.com/biz/italian-french-baking-company-san-francisco

    http://www.yelp.com/biz_photos/vsNXAscvm-FIU423Cy874w?select=FZmTSB_n8ndobi0nmyZh5A

  • Jessica W12/12 02:53 PM

    Kramerbooks & afterwords cafe on dupont circle combines books and eats and does both better than most places survive only attempting one.  Would love to see a bookstore downtown. Thankfully now that morning times is open till 10 there is a place to work/study in the evening hours.

    But still….http://www.kramers.com/

    @please sir: Anthropologie is opening in southpoint in january and ikea in charlotte is the closest were going to get I think.

  • Erika12/12 03:25 PM

    IN-N-OUT BURGER!!!  How has this not been mentioned yet??

  • highjoeltage12/12 03:28 PM

    A proper beer garden. I think Betsy knows what I’m talking about, WI all the way.

  • Magnus12/12 03:40 PM

    Wawa - http://www.wawa.com

  • Dwight12/12 03:48 PM

    *The Peanut Barrel: hole in the wall neighborhood bar, E. Lansing, MI http://www.peanutbarrel.com/

    *Atlantis Books: book/hippie compound, Santorini http://www.atlantisbooks.org/

  • Dan12/12 03:49 PM

    Dean & Deluca

  • Raven12/12 03:53 PM

    DEAN AND DELUCA, please!!!  Words cannot explain how wonderful that place is…Raleigh is overdue one of these fine establishments.  Send D&D a little email to put us on their list:  http://www.deandeluca.com/

  • Lisa Jeffries12/12 04:37 PM

    “Being a southern girl, I am very picky about my grits and biscuits”

    Ditto! Can’t tell you how glad I am to hear that the new addition to Raleigh passes Ladye J’s standards!

    I would also like a Dockside, with the same view. That’d be fantastic!

  • Chico Scott12/12 04:38 PM

    This is an easy one Stubb’s Barbecue in Austin, Texas. Last year DJ Castro and I went down to Austin to support our Carolina Rollergirls, and we paid a little visit to one of Texas’ most famous institutions. Stubb’s was recommended to us by some chick selling jewelry on the street. She said, “If you want real Texas then you need to go to Stubbs.” North Carolinians think they know barbecue - please. You don’t know shit about barbecue until you’ve been to Texas. Also I enjoyed the best collards I ever tasted in my life. I even got a second helping for dessert. But I’m not wishing for a Stubb’s in Raleigh for the food. It’s also the most famous music venue in Austin, if not all of Texas. They had a picture of George Clinton on the wall outside the bathroom, and that was all I needed to see. From Waylon to Willie, James Brown to Elvis, you name it and it’s played at Stubb’s. Imagine that in the Capitol City!

  • Chico Scott12/12 04:39 PM

    http://www.stubbsaustin.com/

  • robin12/12 05:29 PM

    I want a good vegetarian restaurant downtown.  To draw on regional examples, take The Laughing Seed or Rosetta’s Kitchen in Asheville.  I’m not picky—I just would like to open a menu and see that the chef is enthusiastic about meat-free meals.  I’m tired of ordering the “vegetarian plate.”

  • bird12/12 06:15 PM

    i agree with the bier garten idea
    also a good healthy lunch grab and go place like EAT from London (not the cheesy pret a mange

  • b12/12 06:35 PM

    Rubio’s! Fish Tacos and Lobster Burritos

  • salley12/12 06:48 PM

    lilly’s downtown
    cosmic cantina
    schoolkids
    a dumpling stand (marco & luca- c’ville)
    i’ll second kramerbooks (dc)
    fox and obel (chicago grocer w/ cafe)
    living room theater (portland movies & drinks)

    man, i could make a looooong list

  • corey3rd12/12 06:58 PM

    how about the place that lets you destroy plates and glasses?

  • jason12/12 08:10 PM

    there’s a place in lakewood, ny called johnny’s lunch.  they have the best freaking hot dogs covered with this awesome ‘special sauce’.  anytime i go back thats one of the first place’s i hit.

  • Sterling12/12 08:20 PM

    We need Barnabys!

    http://www.barnabyscafe.com/

    PS: Chico Scott has clearly never been to Rudy’s…http://rudys.com/

  • Oberlin12/12 08:29 PM

    Cogan’s Pizza from Norfolk, The Varsity from ATL, Macado’s from Boone,and the Soul Bar from Athens.  As long as I’m wishing out loud I’d love to have the old West End bar back too please. I loved that place back in the late 90’s-loud, but great music,good bartenders and always a nice, mixed crowd as well.

  • sasquatch12/12 09:59 PM

    sasquatch wish raleigh had place called “cave”.me know of one these places deep in forest.great place to kick back listen to no thing and lick armpit.me just love rock wall and cool dry floor great place to meet lady sasquatch and make little sasquatch,to bad raleigh hipyupster not be into such scene.

  • ford12/13 01:39 AM

    snooze diner, 23rd and laramie, denver, co.

  • f.t.tank12/13 03:58 AM

    Toppers…those cheesy breadsticks are great for washing down the beer from the WI beer garden with!

  • Carol12/13 09:07 AM

    I’m with ya on Jakes. I believe the ice cream they served was Greenwood Ice cream from Atlanta- never had it any place else! Perhaps we could import it and start a Jakes in 5 Points or Oakwood. That chocolate orange ice cream is tdf!

  • claire12/13 11:00 AM

    3rd st diner (richmond va). 24 hours, apple cheddar omelettes, grilled donuts. really good diner food round the clock. way overdue in raleigh! although i know that several restaurants over the years have tried to do even late night menus and felt it wasn’t worth the cost of staffing but i think raleigh is ready to support a 24 hour joint now as long as the food is good!

  • brian_M12/13 12:52 PM

    H&M

    Pinkberry

    and, um…Mary’s - http://www.marysatlanta.com/

    ALL downtown. And if we’re going to get really spoiled, a Trader Joe’s downtown (surely they can shoehorn on in somewhere if the new store on Wake Forest Rd. is only 12,000 sq. ft.), and our own IKEA. If a million more people are coming to this area in the next 20 years, we can support one.

  • NCRain12/13 02:43 PM

    Magnolia Cafe- there are a couple in Austin. Great food and open 24 hours.  Yummy fish tacos.

  • MikeB12/13 04:22 PM

    Pollo Loco!

  • L12/13 06:06 PM

    H&M!!!!!! downtown, for sure!! that’ll bring people to DTR in DROVES!

  • Mary Ruffin Hanbury12/13 06:45 PM

    The Commodore Theater and Cafe Europa from Portsmouth VA; the late great Yankee Doodle from New Haven, CT; and while we are at it The Varsity from Georgia;  from Charleston SC—Basil, Hominy Grill, Blue Bicycle Books and Fast and French

  • Johnny12/13 07:03 PM

    robin knows what is up! something similar to Boba House on Greensboro’s Tate St. would be a sure hit in downtown Raleigh

  • Acree12/13 08:04 PM

    Brian, yes. I’ve had some good times at Mary’s and the Graveyard.

  • hackles1012/13 08:24 PM

    From Miami:  La Caretta, and Lime (on south beach)

    From St. Louis: McGurks (with its fantastic beer garden) Blueberry Hill, Shaffley brewery

    From NYC: Chicken Kitchen, Smith & Wollenskys, and Brother Jimmys

  • Joe12/14 12:22 AM

    Two hometown favorites from Rochester, NY:
    Wegman’s (Best Grocery Store!)
    Nick Tahoe’s (For the Garbage Plates)

  • hackles1012/14 04:04 PM

    Wegman’s is incredible!!  I second that. 

    on that same note, Wawa would be amazing too.  Seen one around Richmond, but not this far south!

  • Seann12/14 04:20 PM

    If 4th WEGMAN’S!!!!!!!!

  • Miles12/14 05:37 PM

    The MARTA rail system from the Atlanta area.
    I know, I know..it’s not a per say business.
    But it does employ many and charge a fee.

    oh and..
    Rito’s                         Phoenix.
    The Grit                       Athens GA
    Central BBQ / Paynes BBQ Memphis TN
    Wax n Facts                   Denver, CO
    Fellinis                         Atlanta, GA

  • Lea12/14 07:59 PM

    From San Francisco: Vesuvio bar and City Lights bookstore, across the street from each other the same way. Also Amoeba Records.

    Any of the great New Mexican restaurants from Albuquerque or Santa Fe. Also, Blake’s Lottaburger…green chile cheeseburgers, yo!

    - L

  • kathy12/14 11:04 PM

    Second on Fox & Obel in Chicago—my friend lives in the building on the corner diagonal, and I always have to get angel food muffins when I visit.
    Also, I am DYING for someone to open a proper, old-fashioned supper club, like the one in “The Muppets Take Manhattan,” and a downtown department store with a rooftop or top floor cafe (like the Bloomingdale’s in Soho).

  • kathy12/14 11:14 PM

    Also, on a somewhat unrelated note, Ledo’s, the pizza place in the Brownstone Hotel, originates in the MD/DC area, and it’s a huge hit there, but it doesn’t seem to be that popular here. It is my favorite pizza, though. So, maybe we need another one, in a better location?
    Also, Hamburger Hamlet, if those are still around.

  • CeliaFate12/15 01:35 AM

    ANY smoke-free dance club or bar. By the way - does anyone know of any? been looking for years. Raleigh Times non-smoking side is still to smoky for me, Mosaic’s all right…not really my crowd tho. Just want to go throw a bunch of money at a bartender & dance. Unfortunately, i sit at home because i get a sinus infection every time i go out.

  • CeliaFate12/15 01:44 AM

    And Flaming Amy’s Burrito Barn from Wilmington.
    And somewhere downtown where you can walk up to a counter at night & order quick food. Like after roller derby practice when you’re all hungry & sweaty & just want to pick up a sandwich or burrito to go. Too many expensive sit down fancy restaurants. Enough already! Real people live downtown too! We can’t all dress up, lounge around & eat $20 dinners every night!
    And a downtown movie theatre.
    And a go-kart track. C’mon!
    Ooo. A skate rink.

  • RaleighRob12/15 08:35 AM

    Agree with those who say H&M…that’d rock.

    CeliaFate- The View is smoke-free.  It’s a “sidebar” in a separate building adjacent off of Legends, which is an LGBT bar…but welcomes “Friends of the community”, if you know what I mean. 
    That’s about the only smoke-free place I can think of.

  • Horatio12/15 09:31 AM

    Raleigh needs an oldfashioned bakery like the ones on every corner in Manhattan whose bakery goods have that homemade taste, not just a super sweet sugar and flour flavor. Most of the bakeries in Raleigh are attached to a grocery store or some other enterprise, not a stand alone bakery. A bakery whose emphasis is on taste not looks would be a hit.

  • highjoeltage12/15 09:59 AM

    I agree a proper bakery and a good old-school deli in downtown would be awesome.

  • hackles1012/15 10:03 AM

    Movie theatre would be great too!

    Landmark theatres are really nice!  Show a good mix of indie and mainstream flix

  • Acree12/15 10:04 AM

    Alon’s: http://www.alons.com/

  • corey3rd12/15 10:25 AM

    Downtown already has the IMax theater.

  • hackles1012/15 10:27 AM

    ^you can’t be serious?

  • joebee12/15 12:50 PM

    H&M already mentioned. its gonna take a big retailer downtown for any other small retailers to follow (significantly). people will come downtown with a large, well known clothing store that pushes the downtown agenda.

  • sarah12/15 01:18 PM

    I response to an earlier post: Irregardless is a great vegetarian restaurant that is downtown. Although the menu is not solely vegetarian, it is definitely focused towards the non-meat eaters. There are even a lot of vegan options. It has won “Best Vegetarian Restaurant” in the independent

    http://irregardless.com/
    In response to below post:


    “Robin
    12/12 05:29 PM
    I want a good vegetarian restaurant downtown.  To draw on regional examples, take The Laughing Seed or Rosetta’s Kitchen in Asheville.  I’m not picky—I just would like to open a menu and see that the chef is enthusiastic about meat-free meals.  I’m tired of ordering the “vegetarian plate.“”

  • MMI12/15 02:08 PM

    For you folks that mentioned Atlanta businesses, let’s hope we get the original versions:


    The Flying Biscuit, sadly, has been sold by its original owner, and is not in franchise buildout mode.  It is NOT the same as the old Biscuit, and is actually a pale, pale comparison.  This saddens me, since the Biscuit in Midtown and the one in Little 5 have served me some great meals over the years.


    Fellini’s is also a casualty.  It started with a burned crust the last time I went, and now the place has truly jumped the shark.  Fellini’s on Ponce was once a must-stop for me when I was back in town, too.


    :(


    As for IKEA, the Charlotte store open in Feb. 2009.  smile

  • MMI12/15 02:09 PM

    *erp, that’s supposed to read that the Biscuit “IS in franchise buildout mode.”  My bad…

  • singlespeed12/16 11:46 AM

    Here’s another vote for H&M downtown. It could definitely be an anchor store down there, that’s exactly what the area needs, an anchor.

    As for Chicago institutions, Fox & Obel would be great. But I would be a lot happier with a real Chicago style pizza place.

    A good burrito shop downtown. I want to be able to walk up to it at two o’clock in the morning and get a burrito. On that late night note, how about a decent late night diner? I have yet to see/find one. Sometimes you just need greasy diner food late at night or early in the morning.

  • D.to.the.B12/16 12:32 PM

    Second on MARTA rail system & H&M.

    Downtown also needs more hotels. Personally, I think if that Sir Walter Raleigh bldg was renovated, it would make a perfect boutique hotel. Not sure where to put the people that live there now though.

    I’m not a big fan of fast food, however it would make sense to have more fast food options than Chick-fil-A & Subway.

    Also, a Trader Joe’s.

  • 15012/16 01:03 PM

    For the past few years I’ve been calling for a Rita’s water ice (or something similar, like a 7-11 slurpee).  We finally got one on Oberlin road, but it opened just a week or two ago (kind of the wrong season for that).  Looking forward to enjoying them all summer!

  • S Aldridge12/16 07:12 PM

    “Sandwhich” resturant in Carrboro NC delicious and uses all local procucts.

    “Central Market” located in Texas only.  Puts all other grocery stores to shame

  • John12/17 09:57 AM

    All my ideas come from South Beach but only a few are South Beach originated…

    Lucky Strike Bowling (martinis, bowling with music videos and a dj)
    Le Sandwicherie: Tiny fresh sandwich “walk up” counter for a quick healthy bite.
    Pizza Rustica:  Huge cheap slabs of gourmet and not so gourmet pizzas until 5AM.
    Kidrobot:  Collectible and trendy art toys.
    Zara: Fashionable and inexpensive Spanish clothing Chain.
    Barney’s Co-Op….enough said. grin
    BASE: Think FM on Glenwood South only bigger, more expensive and more mature.
    Design Within Reach:  Classic contemporary furniture from the masters of the 20th century and new designs that complement them.

  • me12/17 10:59 AM

    -a music venue like the norva in norfolk, va (lincoln theatre has nothing on it)
    -h&m and other retail stores along the same line
    -apple store although crabtree has one
    -a real coffee shop
    -a state of the art museum
    -something like sephora or simply sephora
    -maybe a banana republic
    -trader joes or whole foods
    -and everything should stay open late

  • MMI12/17 01:59 PM

    The Music Farm, from Charleston.  It’s not much bigger than The Lincoln, but it has it all over that place.


    http://www.musicfarm.com/home.html


    Scratch that—I want the Music Farm from 10-15 years ago.  The bands were bigger AND better (not always the same thing), and the original owners were still there.


    The original owner for the 96 Wave radio station should come up here, as well.  He had to sell the station when his habits got too strong, and it slowly dwindled down until it was converted to a piss-poor version of the “we play everything (crappy)” format.


    http://www.charlestoncitypaper.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid:32996

  • MMI12/17 02:01 PM

    Nice half-link, Mr. HTML:
    Please tack on “oid:32996” after the “=” character.

  • Mark12/22 02:52 AM

    I think we should look at downtown charlotte for possible suggestions. They have a vast amount of booming businesses from retail to dining. I went there this past week it was quite enjoyable. Also maybe we could consider something like Charlottes metropolitan shopping area as well. The thing that gets me is that although Raleigh is a wonderful city, many business turn to other cities such as charlotte and atlanta to establish thier business???

  • RaleighRob12/22 08:14 AM

    Here’s another one.  This weekend in Greensboro, I visited a store called Garden Ridge.  It’s a home decor/home accessories store, but at prices that are crazy cheap.  (Got a very nice coat rack for 20 bucks….saw a brand new sofa for only 250!)  Love to have that in Raleigh.

  • Margo12/23 10:59 AM

    I will second or third all of these:

    Lucky Strike Bowling—- need downtown activities that aren’t 100% drinking focused.  This is great for lower-key nights.

    Kramerbooks from DC

    Trader Joe’s.

    A bier garten.  I think Schmidt’s Sausage Haus from Columbus, OH would be a great fit for City Market, where the old Greenshields used to be.  Good food, an on-site bakery for carry out, and great beer.  You could easily shut down the roads within City Market to have a proper outdoor bier garten during Oktoberfest.  http://www.schmidthaus.com/

    And I will add:

    A proper hands-on science museum.  COSI, also from Columbus, is huge, with cool hands-on activities, live science demonstrations, and is generally awesome.  At 26, I *still* am enamored with COSI.  Also, it would generate activity downtown during the day, and be a destination spot for school field trips.  It set me up for disappointment when I first visited Exploris/Marbles. 
    http://www.cosi.org/

    I have to disagree with the crowd, however, on H&M.  I just can’t stand by the 24-hour fast/disposable fashion industry.  If H&M were our first real anchor downtown, it would bring with it the SUV- and “gimme gimme”- crowd.  I think that would change the argument for downtown planning and encourage even more parking decks instead of the sustainable transit options we really need.  Overall, it would alter the character of downtown for the worse.  Trader Joe’s or another name-brand retailer would be an anchor better aligned with the goals for downtown development.

  • wg12/23 01:47 PM

    the green parrot bar in key west, FL.  the best bar ever.

  • Arthur!12/26 11:27 AM

    EATWELL from West Hollywood. Its similar to Elmos in Durham but more of a gay twist.

  • Joshua12/26 11:59 PM

    magma books from london. but i’d also take a cosmic cantina in raleigh!

  • debbie12/31 04:21 PM

    *a good bookstore
    *decent affordable housing/condos - it’d be great if downtown housing wasn’t geared towards just the well-to-do
    *and heck yeah to a MARTA or Metro type subway system

  • John Twomey01/01 09:02 PM

    Beignets!
    Cafe du Monde wouldn’t work outside of New Orleans, but we could create our own funky place that served those wonderful greasy hot confections along with chickory coffee so strong it erodes the cups. Of course it would be open 24 hrs and the homeless guy in the corner (who could certainly use a shower - but I’m not going to tell him) is in the process of writing the Great American Novel of the 21st Century.

  • qualitygreen01/01 10:35 PM

    RaleighRob: Haven’t been to Garden Ridge, so I’ll take your word for it being a pretty cool place; however, “crazy cheap” can be a short lived, empty thrill. A new sofa for $250 almost certainly means some combination of the following:  poor quality materials assembled poorly by sub-minimum wage/slave-wage labor, using unclean energy sources and technologies that are an unmitigated ecological disaster as well as a threat to the physical safety of the workers, then shipped here with continued heavy cost to the environment. Does it really make sense to build a sofa in Guangzhou, China, then ship it thousands of miles to port in Wilmington or Norfolk, then truck it to Greensboro, and then to Raleigh, when the original design that “inspired” the cheap Chinese knock-off is probably being made by Lazar, EXL, Thayer-Coggin, Bernhardt or Century Furniture right here in NC? To top it all off, any sofa that can be built, wholesaled, shipped and retailed at $250 is not going to last very long. You COULD buy a good quality domestically made sofa for, say, $1,500 or $2,000 and enjoy it for a decade or more, or buy poor quality for $250, dump it in the local landfill and replace it every other year. Finally, dollars spent on locally made product cycle back through our economy. Your own paycheck is much more likely to get a little boost if you’re buying domestically produced and locally sold merchandise. So, I personally think that the last thing we need in downtown Raleigh is a store selling disposable durable goods made cheaply through human and environmental exploitation.

  • Matt K.01/06 12:10 AM

    I’ll throw in another vote for IKEA. There’s simply nothing like it around here. Personally, I’d love to see a Virgin Records Megastore as well (though it’ll never happen, as metro Raleigh is simply too small of a market).  I miss the old WaxWorx record store on Hillsborough street.  It would be nice to have something along those lines return again.

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